PLEASE READ IF ASKING FOR HELP -WITH DRAGON

Discussion in 'Bearded Dragons' started by CheriS, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. CheriS

    CheriS Is well known here

    If you are posting with a question concerning health or behavior of your dragon, please include an outline of husbandry set up, food and the dragons history, so that your concerns can be answered as quickly as possible. You can copy/paste this into a new thread, answer them and send to the forum for others to help you.

    Most problems with dragons that are not thriving or seem unwell, can be corrected easily with a few changes, but we need to know as much info as possible to pinpoint what may need changed. The bearded dragon forum can often help you correct husbandry issues and improve the condition of your dragon overnight. But remember, we are not a substitute when an animals is very ill and needs to see a vet. We can help you with fixing a problem or avoiding ones to begin with, but we can not diagnose or replace competent medical treatment when they need it.

    Thanks!

    OWNER INFO
    Is this your first bearded dragon?
    What area are you located in?

    PERSONAL HISTORY (Dragon)
    Dragons name:
    Age, weight and length if you know?
    How long with you?
    What is his condition recently and if it changed, when?
    Is he active, clear eyes and bright?
    Is the beard, chest or tail tip darker than the rest or than normal?
    Walking/moving normally?
    Any physical features that do not appear normal?
    From Breeder or Pet Store? (this may make a difference)
    Has he every been treated by a vet,
    If yes, for what and what meds were used/dosed and time if know?
    Basking or sleeping during the day?
    Is he going to the bathroom, how often?
    If not, when was the last time?
    Is it formed/normal or runny/smelly
    Alone or with others?
    If with others, what sex"?
    Soaking or misting at all and how often?

    ENCLOSURE
    Set up info tank size?
    Temps -what do you use for heat?
    Basking point?
    Cool area?
    What are you measure it with?
    What Substrate?
    UVB Lights type (detailed) what brand, model, and length or wattage is
    How old?
    How close to UVB light when he bask?
    What hours for day/night?
    Do you use any type of nighttime heat, if so what?

    FOOD
    How is his appetite? IS there a change?
    What size, kind and how many/much insects does he eat daily?
    What do you feed the insects normally?
    Is the dragon eating greens/veggies?
    What and how much?
    Supplements?
    What kind of calcium/how often?
    What kind of vitamins how often
    How are these given to him?

    Is there any additional information that might be of use? The more you can tell us, the better others can help you with suggestions.

    *Copyright Cheri Smith, The Reptile Rooms ©2006 The above may not be reproduced in part of whole without written consent by the copyright holder. It may be linked to from other locations with acknowledgement
     
  2. ReptileCrazy

    ReptileCrazy Embryo

    Cool Cheri. Looks great, i hope it helps!
     
  3. clarinet45

    clarinet45 Embryo

    thanks for putting this up!
     
  4. mushmose

    mushmose Embryo

    i have two beardies, one is 10" w/tail, the other is 5" w/tail, i recently separated them
    to give the smaller a better eating chance, the older on monday stopped eating and was trembling, i give them both reptocal, uvb, uv lighting and heat around 90 during the day,80 @ night, i bought fluckers repta aid, and hes starting to livin up a little, the smaller yesterday had 3 siezure like episodes and now his back legs dont work, and he seem to roll on his side with his back bent in the opposite direction, mouth open , front legs folder under him, he ate flukers today and 3 crickets, what should i do.
     
  5. Basker

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    welcome to the forums. start a new thread for this though, and i will help you then, this threasd is just an announcement like thing to tell people what to do if they need help, make a new thread in bearded dragons and ill help you.
     
  6. mushmose

    mushmose Embryo

    hi, i dont really know how to do this?-mushmose
     
  7. Basker

    Basker Embryo

    on the top of the list of topics, if you go back, thereis a button called new topic, click on it, put a title in the box at the top and put your question in the bigger box underneath. then hit submit
     
  8. CheriS

    CheriS Is well known here

    Copy paste the question above into a new topic post and answer them, then submit and we can see what is going on, sound like you make be feeding them too large prey insects or not high enough heat to digest, but we need to look at everything you are doing, as it is usually more than one things causing a problem. We can not get them from telling us so little about them
     
  9. thanks cheriS, this should help people i hope, when they go to ask us or i go to ask you a question. you should make a form that people can copy and paste, then just fill out. that would be pretty shweet
     
  10. barti1345

    barti1345 Embryo

    I need some tips for bearded dragons in shedding. Should I carefully peel the skin off or soak them in water? :?
     
  11. Daggerlover

    Daggerlover Embryo

    Soak.
     
  12. Just_Some_Guy

    Just_Some_Guy Embryo

    I got to pay more attention to stickys. Thanks CheriS
     
  13. RyuTheBeardie

    RyuTheBeardie Embryo

    my female yesterday pooped out a sack like thing and it was white and kinda hard. It wasnt a egg's or something was it?
    MY female is about 14" age around 10 months.I dont know the weight.poops i guess once a day.bask's all day mostly. i soak and mist.she is alone now i had her with a male that i just found out was a male about a week ago (now seperated).So i think maybe she could have mated with him.Hopeing not but possible i guess.

    Thanx DAn
     
  14. RobertII

    RobertII Embryo

    CheriS is the queen!
     
  15. herpetron2

    herpetron2 Embryo

    sorry if this is the same
    ok so me and my friend were cleaning out this old abandoned house and we lifted up the old refrigerator and we found this poor little beardy just sitting thier, my friend thouht it was dead so I was going to pick it up when it took of across the kitchen floor. But my problem is it is extremely skinny and weak, what should I do to get her back to health?

    I already gave her pedelyte to rehydrate her and she is im proving but she isnt gaining weight.

    shes about 8 or 9 inches long and is severly malnourished

    i have no idea on how much she weighs but i can see her spine and hip bones.

    she has ate, a little, but isnt gaining weight pleez help.

    I have her in a 20 Long right now
     
  16. CheriS

    CheriS Is well known here

    You need to copy the above questions, click on New post below and then past it into a new post and put in your answers to the questions.

    That is how we can help you and her best,,, we need to know what you have for her and what you are feeding here also to help
     
  17. herpetron2

    herpetron2 Embryo

    ok sorry
     
  18. herpetron2

    herpetron2 Embryo

    OWNER INFO
    Is this your first bearded dragon? NO
    What area are you located in? MOJAVE DESERT

    PERSONAL HISTORY (Dragon)
    Dragons name: TOOEY
    Age, weight and length if you know? VERY SKINNY
    How long with you? 2 WEEKS
    What is his condition recently and if it changed, when? VERY POOR
    Is he active, clear eyes and bright? SOMEWHAT
    Is the beard, chest or tail tip darker than the rest or than normal? NO
    Walking/moving normally? YES
    Any physical features that do not appear normal? HIP BONES SHOWING
    From Breeder or Pet Store? (this may make a difference) RESCUE
    Has he every been treated by a vet,
    If yes, for what and what meds were used/dosed and time if know? NO,NONE
    Basking or sleeping during the day? BASKING
    Is he going to the bathroom, how often? YES,OFTEN
    If not, when was the last time?
    Is it formed/normal or runny/smelly RUNNY/SMELLY
    Alone or with others? OTHER
    If with others, what sex"? MALE
    Soaking or misting at all and how often? SOAKING, OFTEN

    ENCLOSURE
    Set up info tank size? 20 GALLON +
    Temps -what do you use for heat? 100 WATT LIGHT BULB
    Basking point? YESCool area? YES
    What are you measure it with? DIGITAL THERMOMETER
    What Substrate? SAND
    UVB Lights type (detailed) what brand, model, and length or wattage is
    How old? NEW DAYLIGHT BULB
    How close to UVB light when he bask? NOT TO CLOSE
    What hours for day/night? DAY: 8 HRS NIGHT: 8 HRS
    Do you use any type of nighttime heat, if so what?

    FOOD
    How is his appetite? IS there a change? HEALTHY
    What size, kind and how many/much insects does he eat daily? 15 - 20 MEDIUM CRICKETSWhat do you feed the insects normally? POTATOES
    Is the dragon eating greens/veggies? YES
    What and how much? ROMAINE TWO LARGE LEAVES A WEEK
    Supplements? CALCIUM
    What kind of calcium/how often? POWDER NO PHOSPHORUS
    What kind of vitamins how often
    How are these given to him?
     
  19. CheriS

    CheriS Is well known here

    For starters, you need to separate this new one that is very sick and thin from the other ones, not only so the other one may not pick up parasites, bacteria or virus that this one has, but also so this one has a chance to survive without intimidation or stress from the other ones. If they are male/female, they need to stay separated until they are mature . IF htey are male/male you will have some real fight issues on your hands when they new one starts to reach sexual maturity. If there is any differnce in size the larger one will eat the smaller one and if that is the new one, no telling what health issues he is consuming and the little/ new one is not going to think it is such a great idea to be dinner either


    A daylight Bulb is not a UVB bulb, so neither dragon has UVb and that is something you will need to correct as soon as possible to avoud MBD,

    I think that was a typing error, there are still 8 hours unaccounted for.

    Healthy young growing dragons eat 30-70 crickets a meal sitting and when this small that is usually 2 times a day. PLUS daily a rich greens salad, you need to check what greens are good for them on the site care info http://www.reptilerooms.com/Sections+index...es-secid-1.html like collards, dandelion, mustard greens and spring type mixes, romaine is okay mised with other rich greens and veggies like yellow squash, carrots, peas, snow peas, green beans, sweet potatoes, pumpkin (all grated or finely chopped and raw) ON that link is also info about UVB lights and ones that work and ones that do not. it is also important what you feed you crickets, potatoes are some pretty empty calories and that is what the dragon is taking in. you can make a good gutload for them or buy a commercial one like cricketfood.com. For now add some healthier foods like squashes, grains, beans etc. You can also add commercial rep_cal Pellets that are moistened

    The tank is small for one dragon, it really will not work for 2 and you need to get larger ones as soon as you can. If you do not have tanks to put both in to separate them, put one in a sterlite or rubbermaid tub until you do, but they must be separated.

    Calcium needs to be a decent one, you did not say what you are using, but rep_cal calcuim with D-3 for calcium is one of the best and also their Herptivitie vitamins, you can use the calcium 4-5 times a week and the vitimans 1-2 times a week on their bugs, but you need to increase those bugs

    What are you measuring temps with and what are they? they should be 95-105F and measured with a digital probe or temp gun.... stick on or needle type guages are not accurate, off as much as 20 degrees and right now with a sick or malnorished one you need things are accurate as you can get.

    Sand.. not the best of substrates, especially with one that has runny poos so may be harboring a heavy parasite load too, you can read about and see differnt substrates on the Raising babies article on that link or on other articles in that care section.

    If the dragon does not improve with these changes, you may need to get a fecal done and see what parasites it has picked up will running wild and get those treated.
     
  20. dogking

    dogking HOTM Winner September

    well CheriS prety much summed it up. i definitely think that you should get them in bigger cages. plus get a uvb bulb and feed him more often.
     

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