Buildin 20Gal For Leo Need To know Dimensions/Supplies

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  1. Raziel

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    Ok hopefully ppl will reply this time lol...i need to know the dimensionsfor a 20-25 gallon tank(for leos so its more about the floor space but i want it a bit tall incase i try something new so maybe 30 gallon...like i said i need dimensions and supplies like glue guns instructions etc...i know the wood bard that ill use(for like around the tank..holding it together on the outside but i dunno which kinda glue or glass(thats not toxic(glue) and that doesnt melt(glass) thx everybody!Please Reply though!
     
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  3. Raziel

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    Please ppl...I need the stuff soon!Im planing making it on Saturday or Sunday :)
     
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    No ones replying :'( pls i just need to know glass that wont melt and non toxic glue...maybe some intructions would help too
     
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    YES!I found a site where i gave the dimensions(typed em in) and they showed me how to make it but just in case is this right?(forget the water parts though lol):
    Tank Information:
    Material = Plywood w/ Glass
    Tank Height = 14"
    Tank Width = 20"
    Tank Length = 25 "
    Plywood w/ Glass Thickness = 3/4"
    Approximate Gallons = 30



    Cut List:
    3/4" Exterior Grade Plywood
    Bottom = 25 " x 20"
    Front = 25 " x 13 1/4"
    Back = 25 " x 13 1/4"
    2 Sides = 13 1/4 " x 18 1/2"


    1/4 inch Glass Front
    Glass Front = 23 x 11 1/4


    Plywood Tank Construction

    CONTENTS
    ASSEMBLE TANK
    TANK PAINTING
    INSTALL GLASS
    FINAL FINISH



    PLEASE PRINT THIS PAGE FOR LATER USE


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    TANK IS A 2-3 PERSON PROJECT

    Tools
    a. 1- portable or table power saw
    b. 1- screw gun, with Phillips bit
    c. 1- orbital or belt sander, with medium grit
    d. 1- caulking gun
    e. 4-inch paint brushes, one for each day of painting [ KEEP BRUSHES IN FREEZER TO REUSE ]
    f. 2- 16-inch stanchions (May be boxes, or anything of this height, used to support the plywood pieces during construction)
    g. Various containers for mixing glue, putty, and paint
    MATERIAL LIST
    Materials List
    c. 2-inch drywall screws
    d. Resorcenol waterproof glue
    e. Autobody putty w/ hardener
    f. Two-part epoxy paint for potable water tanks (NSF 61/USDA/ANSI/AWWA and FDA certified and
    approved)
    g. Silicon caulking, non-toxic aquarium suitable
    h. Xylene glass cleaner
    i. Commercial glass cleaner
    j. 6-sheets, 120 grit sandpaper
    k. 2-sheets, 220 grit sandpaper
    l. 2-packs, paper towels Sufficient for more than two tanks
    CUTTING LIST
    Work Area
    A clean, dry work area is needed, indoors if necessary to insure cleanliness, out-of-doors if possible. Secondary, well ventilated, warm area for final tank drying after construction.
    TANK ASSEMBLY
    Single Tank Construction Procedure, Tank Assembly
    Cut out the front frame. Ensure you leave a minimum of 2 inches around the edges.
    Inspect all plywood pieces for rough or flawed edges, which might later affect tank integrity. Sand as needed.
    Lay bottom panel on the 16-inch stanchions.
    Apply glue along all four edges of bottom panel, sufficiently heavy to accommodate the edges of the backpanel, endpanels, and face frame.
    Raise backpanel up under bottom panel, mating long edge of backpanel into glue along edge of bottom panel. Insure that edges are flush, and that they make a 90-degree corner.
    Turn bottom panel over, glue side down, centered on stanchions so that all edges of bottom panel are accessible.
    Using screwgun, screw backpanel to bottom panel, inserting 2-inch drywall screws at 3-inch intervals along entire length. INSURE THAT ALL SCREWS ARE FULLY SEATED, AND TIGHT.
    Apply glue along one 16 inch edge of each side panel.
    Raise each side panel up under bottom panel, and screw tightly to both bottom panel and backpanel. Place drywall screws at three inch intervals.
    Apply glue along inside edges of face frame, where they will mate with the endpanels. Raise lower face frame up under remaining edge of bottom-panel, and screw into place to bottom panel and endpanels.
    Use three (3) screws in each end, and normal three-inch intervals along length. Insure that all edges are flush, and tight, after final tightening of screws.

    *** WIPE EXCESS GLUE FROM ALL JOINTS AFTER FINAL TIGHTENING, AS IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO CHIP OR SAND AWAY AFTER IT IS HARDENED. ***


    Turn partially-completed tank right side up on stanchions for inspection. At this point, all panels screwed together should rest on the bottom panel, for the strongest possible base.
    If this is not the case, quickly disassemble the pieces before the glue sets, and reassemble properly.
    Turn the tank face-up on the stanchions.
    Apply glue to FRONT exposed edges of endpanels.
    Lay upper face frame in place, and screw to edge panels, using three screws in each end.
    Check short face frame pieces for proper fit, sanding if necessary. THEY MUST FIT TIGHTLY WITHOUT SPRINGING UPPER AND LOWER FACE FRAME PIECES APART.
    Apply glue to ends of short face frame pieces.
    Lay short face frame pieces into place, and screw firmly to end panels, insuring that the outer edges are flush with the ends of the tank.
    Recheck all work, wiping away excess glue, and insuring that corners are square, true, and not pulled open by later construction.
    Allow to dry overnight if possible, though this is not critical.


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    TANK PAINTING
    Single Tank Construction Procedure, Painting --
    Precautions FOR ALL PROCEDURES INVOLVING EPOXY PAINT, THE FOLLOWING PRECAUTIONS MUST BE ADHERED TO.

    1. NO SMOKING
    2. DO NOT LET BRUSHES DRY
    3. DO NOT BREATH FUMES
    APPLY PAINT IN A WELL-VENTILATED AREA, PREFERABLY OUT-OF-DOORS, AND MOST ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM THE AIR SUPPLY INTAKE. THE FUMES ARE HIGHLY TOXIC, AND MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS IN HUMANS IF THEY ARE CONCENTRATED AND EXPOSURE IS PROLONGED.


    This is absolutely the most important part of any plywood fish tank made, and the least researched by the vast majority of aquarium DIY people. A tank coating that doesn't poison fish.
    The only sealer/coating that is qualified for use in an aquarium is a TWO PART EPOXY FOR POTABLE WATER TANKS. This coating is used to seal the interior of several thousand gallon community drinking water tanks, as a coating for holding tanks in fish farms and as a liner for large public aquariums. These coatings are NSF 61/USDA/ANSI/AWWA and FDA certified and approved. Further, epoxy coatings are highly resistant to salts and corrosion and are recommended for marine use.
    Some brand name coatings that can be used are:

    ----- sherwin williams brand "Epoxide HS Tank Lining"-----
    ----- rustoleum brand "9200" system epoxy with color choices one of which is "9271" dunes tan-------

    These epoxies contain no solvents or volatile organic compounds and are usually composed of 100% solids. Additionally, solvents and thinners are not recommended for use with this epoxy because they would defeat the purpose of using a non-toxic coating. There are other manufacturers of epoxy and many of them have nsf 61 approved epoxy for potable water. Further, if one finds an epoxy that is not recommended for use with potable water, not nsf 61 certified, I suggest against using it.

    This potable water epoxy may cost a little more than a different coating but on the other hand, IT IS NOT POISONOUS TO FISH. From what I have read, I could suggest against using as a tank liner; enamel, acrylic enamel, urethane, fiberglass, gel coat and polyester resin, all of these release/outgass poisonous volatile organic compounds, VOC's. On a side note, in my opinion, only the part of the tank that touches the water needs to be coated with this epoxy. The outside of the tank can be coated with a less expensive paint, maybe a urethane.


    Apply epoxy paint to all exposed wood surfaces of tank.
    Make coat of paint as thin as possible, while covering the wood surfaces completely, because the paint runs easily.
    Allow coat to dry overnight.
    Fill all cracks and holes with autobody putty, making as smooth a surface as possible.



    Sand entire surface, using 120-grit paper or power sander, and apply second coat. Insure that the coat is as thin as possible, to avoid running paint.
    Use the 120-grit sandpaper for sanding the first two coats of epoxy paint.
    220-grit for sanding the third coat, in preparation for the fourth or final finish coat.
    (If power sander is used. then the sanding pressure applied would be less for the last coat.)
    Repeat procedure in steps until four (4) coats of the epoxy paint are applied.
    Allow tank to dry in well-ventilated, warm area for 24 hours before proceeding.
    Glass Installation




    Turn tank face down on level, flat surface, insuring that entire face frame is supported.
    Use 220-grit sandpaper to rough up a two-inch strip of the epoxy paint on the inside of the tank, around the glass opening. This rough area will serve as a bonding area for the silicon glue.
    Sand or file all corners of the glass panel, to avoid later injury to either workers or fish.
    Clean entire surface, and edges, of glass panel with Xylene cleaner, and then commercial glass cleaner.
    Apply 1/2-inch bead of silicon caulking around entire opening in face frame, on inside of tank. The bead should be approximately one inch from edge of opening, except along the top, and there the bead should be approximately one-half inch from edge of opening.
    Install glass on inside of tank, insuring that the lower edge of the glass is resting full-length against bottom panel of tank for support.
    Press evenly on glass to remove all bubbles and gaps from silicon caulking seal.
    Recaulk glass, along all edges. pressing caulking with finger firmly into the corner formed by glass and face frame. Final caulking seal should be smooth, rounded, and gap and bubble free. Wipe any excess caulking away after seal is finished.


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    FINAL FINISH
    Single Tank Construction Procedure, Final Assembly Points
    Using three screws for each end of brace, install tank top brace, centered, spanning from top, inside edge of backpanel to top inside edge of upper face frame.
    Apply heavy bead of silicon caulking into all interior corners of tank, again smoothing the seal with finger, removing all gaps and bubbles, and wiping away excess caulking when finished.
    Allow tank to dry for 48 hours in warm, dry area before adding water.
     
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  9. Raziel

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    K sry lol its gonna be this:
    Tank Information:
    Material = Plywood w/ Glass
    Tank Height = 14"
    Tank Width = 15.5"
    Tank Length = 36 "
    Plywood w/ Glass Thickness = 3/4"
    Approximate Gallons = 34



    Cut List:
    3/4" Exterior Grade Plywood
    Bottom = 36 " x 15 1/2"
    Front = 36 " x 13 1/4"
    Back = 36 " x 13 1/4"
    2 Sides = 13 1/4 " x 14"
    1 Top Brace = 14 " x 6"


    1/4 inch Glass Front
    Glass Front = 34 x 11 1/4
     

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